Silverlight and the Adobe Creative Suite

If you’ve followed the announcements at MIX09 its hard to deny Microsoft is making some good progress with Silverlight. I was just browsing the session recordings and thought this one was interesting to post up on my blog: “Silverlight and the Adobe Creative Suite”.

I’m happy to see Microsoft realizing that Adobe’s creative suite software is where designers live and don’t make the mistake of trying to force them into a different workflow, so particularly Photoshop and Illustrator import are great features to see implemented.

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I was assured by Microsoft employees any resemblance with Adobe product features is purely coincidental, as I’m sure is the case at 10:30″ where she converts some imported graphics into a working horizontal slider.

When I have the time over the next week or two I’ll do some testing of Silverlight 3, unfortunately the tools shown here only run on Windows but the third party Eclipse Silverlight plugin should come to my rescue (if I can finally get it installed on my Mac that is).

At this time I don’t see any compelling reasons to use Silverlight over the Flash Platform but things are definitely getting closer. If Microsoft ends up with a good development story on Mac I can see myself potentially starting to use it. Long term though, when it comes to enabling creative expression and their commitment to cross platform Adobe still has the edge.

Now with a third party Visual Studio plugin for Flex also out in the wild, I think we’re seeing the beginning of a consolidated effort towards bridging various RIA technologies for the web and the desktop in the different tool sets.


12 thoughts on “Silverlight and the Adobe Creative Suite

  1. Scott Barnes says:

    There were a lot features that you see today that pre-dates a lot of “Adobe” to the point where we were shocked when we saw them unveiled last year.. it was like they were reading our minds.

    It’s not at all a surprise given we are all working actively on similiar problems thus solutions will overlap (that and I’ve harped on about a few of the community wishlists in the Macromedia days when I wasn’t at Microsoft – pre2007).

    Scott Barnes
    Rich Platforms Product Manager

  2. Peter says:

    Thanks for your feedback Scott — I’m not in a position to know who ‘inspired’ who here but the feature I mentioned has been one of the principal demo’s of Thermo now Flash Catalyst for a good while.

    Unless you have someone leaking information at Microsoft I find it strange that we now see the exact same demo with Silverlight at MIX09. It would’ve been good form to at least go with a slightly different demo than converting to a horizontal slider control.

    For people like me who follow both Adobe as Microsoft this comes across as an arrogant and deliberate attempt at copying features. Even if that is not the case, that is how it comes across.

  3. Scott Barnes says:

    I wasn’t privy to the scripted approach that was taken, but in the end it’s also not really about who copies whom but more of a contrast between both. It’s somewhat important to note that at some point for whatever reasons they decide, folks will use both? (fair call no?) in which case having a viewpoint on how both approach the same problem can be somewhat of a boon for folks on-ramping.

    Do you remember when Macromedia came out with the Pet Market application to show Java folks on how they can go from an existing pattern to Flash? I liked that as it gave contrast and allowed a more easily digestible approach to the problem that both were trying to solve.

    In the end, this will definately not be a zero sum game, if you move to our stack doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll abandon Adobe’s. Just now you have the ability to interrupt millions of .NET developers lives with your creative talents.

    Peter, watch a movie called “MacHeads” it provides a really good insight into how technology, community and corporations collide.

    Scott Barnes
    Rich Platforms Product Manager

  4. Barnes,

    You are a mess. Your morals are suspect, especially for someone who used to build sites for adult entertainment. I find it hilarous at the same time frightening with your revisionist RIA history with your claims that Adobe is copying Microsoft. That is your MO at Microsoft. May 1,000 funnel web spiders visit your laptop bag.


  5. Scott Barnes says:

    Ok that’s just damn scary..obsessed with me much?

    How weak πŸ™‚


  6. Is it weak? You said your blog post with your interview at Microsoft that one of your goals was to pick a fight with the Adobe crowd. You have a pattern of being dishonest in your blog posts, ready to declare victory in the RIA space for Microsoft, and then have the huevos rancheros to say that Adobe is copying your strategy. You are loose cannon who uses his Microsoft sig all too often. Eventually that is going to work against you. Just remember that you reinforce the negative Microsoft stereotypes that breeds enemies. Your goal was to polarize, so don’t be suprised if you generate negative charges in deep and dark places.



  7. Scott Barnes says:

    It’s weak because an Adobe staffer posting as an anonymous person on another persons blog whilst trying to convey FUD against my persona is somewhat weak. I also have a fairly good bet on which staffer this is, given their aggressive posture and tone in wording.

    Anywho, damn it mom, you’ve got me.. I’ve seen the light, i repent my evil ways..darn gone it..i had a good ride while it lasted πŸ™‚

    Your move champ.


  8. John Dowdell says:

    I hope it’s not an Adobe staffer… Ned Hayes proved the folly of posting without full disclosure, and that lesson should not be wasted:
    ht tp:/ / om/group/macromedia.dreamweaver/browse_thread/thread/5ab3d7bf47fe8da9/7faa830d52d448bd

    [URL has extra spaces to get past spam-detection.]

    But most actual Adobe staffers I’ve spoken with appreciate Scott’s conversation. It’s like how Opera and Safari folk are probably glad for Asa Dotzler. The “start your copiers” tack here was incidental in the original post, but was quickly elevated in comments as the main theme. Telling.

    (As an aside to Adobe-friendly bloggers, it’s really helpful if you identify yourself in any criticism of Microsoft, to help prevent such charges as Scott’s above. Thanks!)


  9. Excuse me, but posting without full disclosure is an American tradition. Ben Franklin did it regularly in his newspaper. We might not even be a nation without it. Some will argue that it is our patriotic duty to post without full disclosure.

    Just call me Ted (Bundy)

  10. Scott's Mom says:

    Rest assured, Scott’s Mom is *NOT* an Adobe employee. Just someone Scott picked a fight with in the shadows. He drew first blood, second, and again with his repeated FUD. His reality distortion field is weaker than his thinks and he shouldn’t be pissed if someone calls him on it whether it is anonymous or not. His behavior is rewarded at Microsoft. Maybe someday it won’t.



  11. Scott Barnes says:

    Stop it mom, you’re drunk again…

    So not getting a mothers day card this mothers day..i hoped i was adopted ;).


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