Update on the Apache Flex incubator proposal

The discussion about the Apache Flex proposal is now in full swing on the Apache Software Foundation Incubator mailinglist. I have to say its been great getting some outside perspective and it seems to generally be very positive and constructive.

If you haven’t followed along, here are some of the discussion points that got raised:

  • There was a point made about individual contributors versus company representation when the proposal talks about Adobe having minority representation. This was subsequently addressed in the wording of the proposal.

  • There is an interest in getting a list compiled of third party dependencies, their licenses and possible open source alternatives. Part of this will be addressed by Adobe lawyers and the findings will get shared as they become available.

  • The Flex trademark is planned to get donated to the project, there were some concerns about the request to let existing groups using this trademark continue to do so and how that would work under the general ASF trademark guidelines. This is something that would get addressed before the project can graduate from its incubator status.

  • Concerns about Flash Player and AIR runtime dependency and its proprietary nature. This has been largely addressed and the Apache Flex incubator would be free to decide how it proceeds with this and if it wants to target another export format. There is a keen interest in FalconJS and it was reiterated that there is every intention to propose this at some point as either a separate incubator or subproject.

  • There was a question about Adobe commercial Flex support. This could be partly driven by some poor wording in my reporting of the Flex Summit discussions. Alex Harui addressed this in saying “Adobe is not currently planning to offer support for Flex released from Apache, but that could change.”

 
Definitely some valid questions there and a good understanding of what the obstacles might be as well as clear opportunities. One of the quotes that stood out for me was by Greg Stein: “Let’s not strive for a perfect contribution from Adobe, and miss an opportunity for an excellent contribution.”. I agree there might be areas where we don’t have a 100% ideal situation but there is time and scope to get that addressed within the incubation period.

Bertrand Delacretaz – one of the project sponsors – issued a call for additional mentors (given the size of the codebase and large number of initial committers). These need to be existing Incubator PMC members and can register their interest on the mailinglist.

If I understand correctly how the whole process works, after the proposal is fine tuned and the discussion dies down a vote will be called on whether to admit Apache Flex as an incubator project. I look forward to seeing how this develops.
 

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8 thoughts on “Update on the Apache Flex incubator proposal

  1. Arnoud says:

    Hi Peter,

    Thnx for the posts about the future of Apache Flex. Very interesting to read about the progress. Exiting times!

  2. Arnoud says:

    Hi Peter,

    Thnx for the posts about the future of Apache Flex. Very interesting to read about the progress. Exiting times!

  3. Michal says:

    I follow the mailing list too, hope finally there are some serious opensource people, thanks day software aquisition, with strong java background. It might push flashplatform further as open project and year from now we will be laughing from it.
    Waiting for adobe contributions to asf next year.

  4. Michal says:

    I follow the mailing list too, hope finally there are some serious opensource people, thanks day software aquisition, with strong java background. It might push flashplatform further as open project and year from now we will be laughing from it.
    Waiting for adobe contributions to asf next year.

  5. Edwin says:

    If Apache Flex will actually deploy to browsers via JavaScript as Labriola says in this podcast:

    http://www.theflexshow.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/12/23/Flex-Summit-Roundtable-The-Flex-Show-Episode-158

    then that would be a beautiful thing.

  6. Edwin says:

    If Apache Flex will actually deploy to browsers via JavaScript as Labriola says in this podcast:

    http://www.theflexshow.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/12/23/Flex-Summit-Roundtable-The-Flex-Show-Episode-158

    then that would be a beautiful thing.

  7. […] you can probably tell from my recent blog posts, I’m now particularly excited about the future of Flex at the Apache Software […]

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